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ncrawfor
Posted 12/18/2007 1:37 PM (#1900)
Subject: failures


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Are you seeing more failures than in the past? It seems that the other schools are seeing an increase in Alg. 1 failures. What are WE going to do about his??
slucas
Posted 12/18/2007 2:27 PM (#1905 - in reply to #1900)
Subject: RE: failures


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Yes, I have seen increased failures in Algebra I. I really don't know what to do about this. What do you think is going to happen when we have end of the year exams? Do you think this is a possiblity?
ncrawfor
Posted 12/18/2007 2:41 PM (#1909 - in reply to #1905)
Subject: RE: failures


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I think we need end of course exams. I think this will ensure that students know what they are supposed to before moving on to the next course. I really feel like this freshman class has not been required to do anything challenging. They give up before even trying the more challenging problems but think they still deserve and 'A' - for effort I guess. They also do not know how to study because they apparently have never been required to so. Do you find these things to be true in your freshman?
slucas
Posted 12/18/2007 2:48 PM (#1911 - in reply to #1900)
Subject: RE: failures


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I would have to agree. I find that students are not concerned with learning and they do not want to attempt a problem that takes more than three lines. Do you think we need to have end of course exams just in the high school, or just in high school courses (ie Algebra and up), or should they start with middle school. Some of it is, I think these kids are just different, they don't seem to want to work at anything. How can we get the kids to have pride in what they do and want to perform well?
ncrawfor
Posted 12/18/2007 3:01 PM (#1914 - in reply to #1911)
Subject: RE: failures


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I think it should be high school courses even if taught in the middle school.

No, these students do not seem to take pride in their work at all. Even my advanced students surprise me with their work ethic. I don't know if it is a trend or just this particular group, but things have been rather wild today as compared to other years. What do you think?
slucas
Posted 12/19/2007 3:43 PM (#1938 - in reply to #1900)
Subject: RE: failures


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I agree. I also think the number of outstanding students is decreasing. I don't know if it so much as a gap or if the expectations they have been held to in the past as decreased over all. How can we get our students to show pride in their work? Does anyone have any suggestions on this?
ncrawfor
Posted 1/10/2008 9:45 AM (#1966 - in reply to #1938)
Subject: RE: failures


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Maybe their lack of pride comes from a lack of understanding. I don't think we spend enough time on some of the topics with the lower level students. Maybe if we had an Alg 1 class that just covered the big topics. We've talked about what is most important for them to know and maybe along the way we will be able to reinforce the skills that they are behind in grasping. When Kelley and I went to S. Oldham all of their chapter tests went back and reviewed the other chapters that were covered so the students had to retain the info to do well. They also did the warm ups and TESTED on the warm ups so the students were responsible for knowledge from past classes as well. Maybe we should start doing some of these things. I know, I know, we time to develop these things. We need time together in groups to actually put together the materials to use for this. Time seems to be the enemy here!!!
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